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Mitchel
62d ago

Narcissistic Relatives and Sabotage

From the age of eight, I’ve constantly fantasised about going no contact with my immediate relatives the second I became an adult because they’re genuinely awful people. While having self awareness is a blessing, the unfortunate thing about possessing it at as a child was being able to recognise a lot of abuse I endured was unjust. What adds insult to injury is that when trying to speak up and defend myself, I was demonised and invalidated.


At the age of 14 I developed an interest in psychology and proactively began researching into various subjects. Upon recurring hospitalisations I was diagnosed with coexisting personality disorders among other things as a result of the trauma experienced and spent many years attempting to advocate for myself because I couldn’t trust relatives, the police or firemen to.


As an adult now I continue to research and educate myself on psychology. As a tool to educate myself and understand others. While I’m yet to go no contact with my narcissistic relatives, comprehending their behaviours makes tolerating their toxicity somewhat easier. With me being two almost three years into my recovery, they’ve amped up how much they’re attempting to self sabotage me.


I have a self care routine that’s imperative I’m given time to work through but every time I’m constantly disturbed. They understand it dysregulates and frustrates me yet it’s done repeatedly as a way to upset me. I exercise regularly at the gym and cut fast food because it’s a detriment to my health yet I’m continually being “encouraged” to cancel my gym membership and am tempted with restaurant food. Any and every time I speak up, respectfully or otherwise, I’m antagonised or told I’m “doing too much.”


I’ve been in therapy and actively researching long enough to understand the truth in the saying, “No one who truly loves themselves would feel the need to hurt or belittle others.” So recognising this, training myself to become non reactive has proven extremely beneficial. When I share these hardships with others, if I share these challenges with others, sometimes I’m met with invalidating statements such as, “That's your family” and that I’m supposed to be forgiving.


Forgiveness is optional, nobody is entitled to it. Doesn’t matter if they’ve changed and is doing better or if they’ve apologised and genuinely mean it. Someone being “family” or having blood relation doesn’t excuse their inappropriate or abusive behaviour. Living and being surrounded with bigoted people and narcissists is frustrating to say the least, but the more I learn, the easier it becomes for me to tune out the bullshit. I just can’t wait to go no contact so I can continue creating the life that’ll feel good for me.

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Laura Bridges
62d

Thank you for sharing this powerful perspective. Boundaries are essential for mental health, and standing firm in your decisions takes tremendous courage. Setting limits isn't selfish - it's necessary for growth. What techniques do you find most effective for maintaining emotional balance during challenging interactions?

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kevinharry4190
61d

@Laura Bridges yes! I wanted to thank you as well, OP. You don't owe anyone forgiveness or your presence. Period. I am sure that your future is bright, and you're already laying the groundwork for a healthier life. Be proud of how far you've come!

You've got this! And just know that you made me smile so hard right now!

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kevinharry4190
60d

@Mitchel yep! Behavior is really what matters in the end. Words are easy to say, but actions show who people truly are. I'm so glad you understand this and are standing firm in your beliefs

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Mitchel
61d
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@Laura Bridges one technique that’s effective for me is recognition, because with that recognition comes understanding. Knowing they don’t love and care about themselves enough to do better and that they resent a lot of the choices they made helps keep me grounded in knowing they’re projecting.


Another technique is having a set of coping mechanisms for when I’m emotionally activated in both situations where I’m alone or around people. If it’s a person (or people) provoking me, in this situation my relatives, I have a toolkit to navigate. Sometimes it looks like stepping away to breathe, other times it’s tuning them out.

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Mitchel
61d
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@kevinharry4190 Thank you for your kind words and encouragement, Kevin! I appreciate this so much. Whether or not my relatives apologised and changed I wouldn’t forgive them. I’ll acknowledge and reflect on an apology but changed behaviour is what determines everything for me.

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Laura Bridges
55d

@Mitchel This is so genius! Projecting is truly the main reason I need to stop worrying about people's opinion about me, because it's truly the opinion on of themselves.

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Robert
61d

The way you're handling this situation with grace and determination is truly remarkable. Your commitment to personal growth while maintaining boundaries shows incredible strength. Education and understanding are powerful tools for transformation. Your insights about family dynamics and the importance of self-care are profound. The gym routine you've developed sounds like an excellent anchor for stability! Keep nurturing your growth and protecting your peace. Your future self will thank you for the boundaries you're setting today ❤️

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solo
61d

The strength it takes to recognize and address toxic patterns is immense. I AM SO PROUD OF YOU!! Moving forward with clarity and purpose, despite challenges, is something that I truly inspire to do


This whole perspective on forgiveness being optional rather than mandatory is particularly insightful.. The way you're approaching this situation with research and understanding is truly commendable!!

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Mitchel
61d
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@solo I’m the “black sheep” of my relatives because instead of turning a blind eye to a lot of the sick and fucked up things that have happened and continue to happen, I call it out and they hate it. They’d rather pretend being family knowing damn well they either hate, distrust or belittle each other. It’s weird and bitter as fuck.


What’s twice as wild is I have no problem forgiving people despite knowing nobody’s owed or entitled to it, I just personally refuse to forgive them because they’re not even making the effort to change. Not for me but for themselves, and because they refuse to better themselves they’re projecting that self hatred onto me/others. All I can do is focus on myself and do my best to hasten the process in getting away from them.


But I appreciate you and your kindness so much, I’m grateful to be supported by understanding and seemingly compassionate people much like yourself!

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solo
55d

@Mitchel oh sorry for the late reply!

Being the "black sheep" for standing up against wrong things is actually a badge of honor! You're so right about how weird it is when families pretend everything's okay while being mean to each other behind closed doors. It takes real courage to be the one who speaks up!


I totally get what you mean about forgiveness - it's amazing that you can still be open to forgiving people in general, even after everything you've been through. But you're so smart to recognize that forgiving people who aren't trying to change would just enable their bad behavior.

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alanna guerrero
61d

This post reminded that I really dreamed about becoming a psychologist when I was a teenager. Adult life has different plans, though. Not saying I'm still not bitter about it, but it is what it is Ig 🤷‍♀️

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Mitchel
61d
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@alanna guerrero It’s never too late! Part of the reason I started researching psychology was because I wanted to be both a teacher and a therapist someday. Once I became an adult I thought, “Farewell” to that dream but currently work as a teacher and have constantly been told by my therapists and other mental health professionals I’d be a great therapist which makes me consider pursuing that also.


If it’s something you’re seriously passionate about I say go for it! Even if it’s not within your means right now, even if it’s something you achieve a few years from now, it’s been to try and let “shit happen” than to go the rest of your life wondering, “What if…?”

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alanna guerrero
60d

@Mitchel it's so true!! Life's too short to always wonder about the what-ifs.


I mean, I've always thought that once u choose something that's it, game over, but maybe that's not true at all?? Maybe we can try different things and even if we fail it's still better than not trying at all. At least we'll know we gave it a shot, right? 😅 And honestly, the way u went from wanting to be both a teacher and therapist to actually becoming a teacher is very inspiring!! That's so cool! And now ur thinking about the therapy part too which is just 🙌


Maybe that's what life is about, trying stuff, failing sometimes, succeeding other times, and just looking back being like "well at least I tried!" Because honestly, sooner or later we're gonna find what we're looking for, even if it takes a few tries to get there

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Rajput
61d

Keep pushing forward! I am in awe of yor self-awareness and dedication to personal development. The fact that you're maintaining healthy boundaries while working on yourself speaks volumes. Healing takes time, and you're doing all the right things. Don't let anyone minimize your experiences or invalidate your feelings. Ever. Your strength shines through in every word you've written. Continue building that beautiful life you deserve!

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Mitchel
61d
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@Rajput I wish I could pin your comment, I really needed to hear this. I appreciate you and everyone else providing insight and encouragement, thank you, Rajput. Really! 🙏🏾

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brendasmth876
60d

I went no contact with my family three years ago, and while it wasn't easy, it was the best decision I ever made.

I found that journaling helped me a lot during the transition period. And still, when I feel down, I always journal. Just putting words down on a paper feels so soothing to me.

It took me a whole lot to understand that toxic family members don't change just because we want them to. And as sad as it is, it's also very true.

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Mitchel
60d
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@brendasmth876 I wouldn’t expect for going no contact to be easy for anyone, but the peace and stability that could come from it keeps me motivated to achieve it. I’m happy to hear that you were able to find the solace you were seeking in going no contact!

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brendasmth876
59d

@Mitchel going no contact truly Is one of the things that I proud of myself.

You're right, this is in no way easy, but it's so worth it and I hope one day you'll feel this kind of peace yourself!

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Georgia Lee
56d

The whole "but they're family" thing is such BS. Blood relation doesn't give anyone the right to abuse you. Your self-care routine sounds really healthy, and it's awesome that you're sticking to it despite their interference. Keep going strong! Your boundaries are valid, and you deserve peace. You're handling this with so much maturity.

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AdaM
55d

Wow, this really resonates with me. I've been there - the constant interruptions, the "encouragement" to abandon healthy habits, the invalidation. It's exhausting.


Glad you could overcome all of this! Refreshing to see someone talk about it the way you do!

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