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Bj
Bjørnulf
1y ago

Сhaotic storm of my mind

Hello, hi, it’s me.

The waves of suicidal thoughts crash against my consciousness again. I’ve written about it sooo many times.. whoever said writing helps is fooling the world! Write or no write it's just there.. My recurring suicidal thoughts appear every now and then I’d say out of nowhere. It never seems any easier to come to terms with them and watch them pass. I’ve never gotten to the stage of actually making any real plans but the thought becomes ever more appealing each time these waves happen. I know the only remedy is to find the strength IRL, some meaningful stuff etcetera… To me it seems as time passes that I find only the opposite, that life is not worthwhile. It's as if a relentless tide is pulling me deeper and deeper into the abyss of despair.

Mind you, I’m not whining. I’ve been reading a lot about Stoicism and kind of think I’m an adept. In the past I used drastic measures to cope with my waves of depression… That’s forbidden topic. I’m over it anyways. However, life does not improve despite all my humble attempts to become someone significant, someone who overcame the all-consuming thoughts of living a life that doesn’t matter.

I remember a dream… please don’t laugh even though I find it queer myself… I had this dream a long time ago when I had my first depressive episodes... where my depression took the form of a massive, menacing giant squid living in the depths of a dark lake. Its tentacles wrapped around me suffocating me with their icy grip, dragging me down into the cold depths of water. I tend to believe my subconscious, so I thought for a long time what my mind is trying to tell me. And I think the only way to get rid of this monster is to let all water run dry. I can not fight it, it’s too strong. That dream feels all too real now. I wish I could find a way to banish this giant squid from my mind. What do the people here advise? (except meds, I don’t take those…)

FeelYou Team
1y
We understand that you're going through a tough time right now, and we want you to know that we're here to support you. Life can be challenging at times, and we all face difficulties that may seem insurmountable. However, please remember that suicide is never the answer.
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noego23
1y

May I wonder a few things? How old are you? Are you against any meds on principle? And, if you don’t mind me asking, do you imply some sort of addiction by “drastic past measures”? Don’t reply the last one if you don’t want to.

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fido_oblivion
1y

I’m afraid I can’t provide much insight into your dreams.

I’ve read a lot about stoicism, can’t say I’m a follower, just curious. From what I understand, the Stoic approach is to “do less” and sorta let it go, not wasting your emotional energy on things you can’t influence. We all will die sooner or later, “memento mori” and all that. There’s no need to rush into it while we still can do some small good things in the world.

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Katt3rmune
1y

Hi, have you sought some offline help? Like therapy?

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Mitchel
1y

As a formerly suicidal person, I understand the feeling of isolation and hopelessness. The discomfort that comes with acknowledging the intrusive thoughts while having little to no intent to act, but the occasional enticement because of “what if” scenarios your mind begins to brainstorm. I know the feeling of everything feeling seemingly futile and resorting to unhealthy coping mechanisms to either numb or distract yourself.


Unfortunately, it doesn’t get any easier. However that doesn’t mean overcoming this hardship is impossible. While I definitely encourage seeking professional help, other outlets that aren’t as costly include: finding community through volunteering, connecting with others experiencing similar struggles through virtual support groups or in-person workshops, etc. These are things I began doing when starting my journey to recovery and while I’m only 2 years into it, there’s been a tremendous, positive impact.


If volunteering, support workshops and group feels too much for you, that’s okay too. You can start smaller with things like art therapy and meditation. You don’t have to be an artist or “know” how to meditate for it to be effective, you can just translate your feelings onto to paper and trash it when you’re done, or keep it if you like. When you meditate, you can use it as a moment to breathe and reflect. I honestly recommend trying anything and everything until you find something that works, and if you find something, stick with it and continue to experiment.


I don’t know what you’re going through but I hope that it smooths over for you soon. I’m glad that you’re still here and hope that you receive the help you deserve, my heart goes out to you.🎈

Bj
Bjørnulf
1y
Author

@noego23 I’m 27. Not on principle, I simply don’t think medication is for me. It’s an easy fix, mostly like any placebo, but it doesn’t last long. As for your last question sure I can answer it. I used to abuse amphetamines for a short while. They might as well be the beginning of my lingering depression...

Bj
Bjørnulf
1y
Author

@fido_oblivion Thanx, I’ve read philosophical arguments about that. It has helped me to move on in the past but sooner or later it all stops working and thoughts about death spiral out of control.

Bj
Bjørnulf
1y
Author

@Katt3rmune Hiya, sure, I’ve been in therapy for some time. It addressed my mental state somewhat, but it does not deal with my spiritual state, and I believe the two are connected. I think at some point one comes to a state when it’s better to end one’s life rather than continue with it. I have a deep respect for those who have been able to overcome their depression, especially when it’s major depression (mine was always tested as ‘minor’ BTW). As for me, I’m rather tired of playing all that ‘try a little more’ game. I’ve tried it all, honestly

Bj
Bjørnulf
1y
Author

@Mitchel Thanx a lot! The truth is I'm not going through *anything* in my life. If I could find at least one horrible reason for my desperate emotions - something I'd pity myself for, perhaps I'd feel more at ease. I'd tell myself sure thing you're facing a lot. But my days are all the same. The most irritating aspect that bothers me is a lack of desire or strength to do things in my best interest. Every time I begin thinking of ending my life, I go onto some forum or app and unload my mind, exchange ideas.. then wait for another wave to hit me. Perhaps my biggest wish is that instead of thinking of ending my life I could think of how to end the way I'm living my life now! I know no one can make any changes in my life but me. I know everything in theory, but in practice I'm crashed by the feeling of utter insignificance.

Appreciate your suggestion about art therapy. I'm not an art person. I think in algorithms and formulas. Even though my writing sometimes sounds too poetic (so I've been told), I'm a scientist at heart. Sometimes I'm contemplating a retreat to Asia. It seems very appealing. But I need to finish some business first.

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noego23
1y

@Bjørnulf Thank you for answering. OK, one more question: have you got any stomach issues? I don’t mean anything light, like occasional food poisoning. I mean constant issues.

Here’s why I’m asking. I’ve recently read a book and some following studies researching the direct link between depression and gut issues. If you have any problems of that sort, look no further. This is the cause of your waves of depression and all your thoughts. This is what needs to be fixed! A trip to the gastroenterologist is required.

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